The Witching Season (2015)

Ep 512, 2 Guys and a Chainsaw Horror Movie Review Podcast

Todd: Hello and welcome to another episode of Two Guys and a Chainsaw I’m Todd. 

Craig: And I’m Craig. 

Todd: Happy Halloween, Craig. 

Craig: Hey, man. Happy Halloween. 

Todd: We made it. 

Craig: How’s it treating you? 

Todd: Oh, so far so good. I, I bought a couple Halloween decorations at the store, a little ghost and a little pumpkin. They’re sitting on my table, and I’m about to head out to the Philippines, and we’re gonna see how much Halloween they do there.

I- in Beijing, there’s Halloween horror nights. I’m going there with some buddies, and that’s always fun. They’ve, uh, boosted that this year. There are now seven walk-through haunts, so- 

Craig: Nice … 

Todd: that’s pretty huge for, you know, few years ago, this place was just kinda getting going on this thing, and now seven haunts, and they’re starting to look pretty professional considering what I saw last year.

I’m, I’m very excited. Nice. I even know someone who’s working in one of them. So, uh, yeah, should be a good time. A little bit of Halloween, uh, in Beijing. A little bit more than I experienced in Thailand, that’s for sure. I kind of assumed the opposite but, you know. As much as Thailand’s into horror, you’d think there’d be a lot more Halloween going on.

Yeah. But maybe we’re a few years out from that yet. How about you? 

Craig: Oh, man, I’ve been enjoying it for a while. I, uh, I, I had to go to a dollar store for something in real early October for, for something for school, and they had just put out all of their Halloween decorations, and I went nuts, and I bought so much cheap crap.

Todd: You can do that on Halloween, right? The cheap crap’s the best. Yeah. 

Craig: Oh, yeah. Like dollar, $1.50 skeleton skulls, so many skulls, spiders. Wow. Like every- I bought so much. I spent like, I don’t know, like $75 at the dollar store on cheap crap, and I decorated my classroom with it. And I love it because that’s Halloween to me.

Halloween isn’t fancy. No. Halloween is tacky. It’s supposed to be. And I, I like cheap, tacky Halloween decorations. I think they’re fun. They make me happy. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: And so my classroom is covered in them. There’s, you know, like three-foot tall plastic, uh, s- skeletons in orange and green hanging in my big windows, and ghosts hanging around and, uh, it’s, it’s great.

That’s awesome. I’ll, I’ll send you some pictures. But yeah, I’m, I’m, uh, you know, I’ve got this new classroom that I love, and, uh, this is really the first time in my almost 25-year career that I’ve, like, decorated for the holidays ’cause I ac- you know, my, my space feels new and, and good, and it’s fun to decorate, so.

Todd: Yeah. That- 

Craig: I’ve really been enjoying it. Yeah. And, and the weather is finally getting cold. Where I am, it’s really weird because it’ll be like in the low 40s overnight, but then by mid-afternoon it’s the 80s. So- Wow. I’m wearing a sweatshirt out in the morning, and then by the time I’m coming home from school I’m sweating, but it’s, it’s nice.

Oh my gosh. The leaves are finally starting to change. It’s, it’s really nice. I’m really, uh, I’m, I’m really settling into the season. I, I’m already through my annual reading of Something Wicked This Way Comes. Like, I’m 

Todd: in 

Craig: it. Oh. 

Todd: That’s fantastic. Oh, Something Wicked This Way Comes. Oh, yeah, it’s funny. You know, I do an annual reading of Dandelion Wine.

Craig: Nice. 

Todd: Two Ray Bradbury books. And, uh, book club’s going well. Having fun there, aren’t we? 

Craig: Yeah, and we’re reading an interesting Halloween book. I don’t know. I ha- I, I’m reserving my judgment. 

Todd: Hmm. 

Craig: But yeah, it’s a 31-chapter book, one day for each day of Halloween. Told from the perspective of, I think, Jack Th- Jack the Ripper’s dog.

Uh And but then also there’s, like, all kinds of, like, Lovecraftian stuff going on. It’s, it’s interesting. I’m a little more than halfway through. That’s fun. But yeah, book club’s going great. Having a lot of fun with those guys, talking about books and movies and all kinds of stuff. It’s a good time. 

Todd: Yeah, it’s very cool.

Well, we’re here on our fifth and final Halloween episode of the season. We picked these movies out pretty far in advance and realized we could do five this month instead of just four if we timed it all right. So, uh, here we are with the fifth one. This is The Witching Season. It’s a horror anthology.

Thought it might be kind of fun to do a wh- to end things on a horror anthology. 

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: You know, we’ve got quite a few horror anthologies out there that we haven’t hit yet that have… We’ve got a long list, actually, but this one is very Halloween themed. I was a little nervous about it, only because I noticed, yeah, it’s one of these, like, lower budget movies.

It doesn’t seem like it’s… It’s definitely hasn’t hit the theaters. Right. Not that I’m aware of, anyway. But it’s up on streaming and stuff, so thought we’d give it a go. So this is the first time I had seen it. How about you, Craig? 

Craig: I thought that I had seen it before, but I don’t think that I have. And I think probably the reason that I hadn’t seen it before is because I was under the impression that it was a feature film that was an anthology, but it’s not exactly, at least not depending on where you get it.

Todd: Supposedly, yeah. 

Craig: It started out as a web series, independently, uh, produced. The, this guy Michael Ballif, Baylif, and, and a guy that he works with, you know, I guess, I don’t know if they’d been working together or they just k- kept working together after this, but a guy named James Morris- And it was a, uh, a, a web series.

And then I think that it did well enough or, or got enough attention that they did like a Kick- u- uh, a Kickstarter or like an Indiegogo or, or something, and they raised enough money for a physical release. And I think that when they did the physical release, they just stitched them all together. And so again, depending on where you get it, I found it on Tubi, where it’s listed as one season of an anthology with five separate episodes, and the episodes are separated out with, with opening and, and closing credits.

But nonetheless, an anthology that feels very much like… You know, there are some anthologies, V/H/S comes to mind, those where you get such diversity in the different directors that even the V/H/S movies are th- you know, each one has kind of a theme, but they can vary wildly in style from segment to segment.

Todd: Right. 

Craig: These feel like parts of a whole. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Th- this feels more like Trick r Treat, right? 

Todd: Yeah. It, it does in a way, ’cause the, because of what 

Craig: ties it together. The one that we really liked. 

Todd: Yeah, yeah. 

Craig: Right. And, and the stories don’t overlap as much here as they do in that movie, but there is some overlap and the style and, and, uh, many visuals and, and things of that nature are, are consistent throughout.

So it, it feels like it was made as a cohesive whole and, and works that way even though there is no wraparound at all. 

Todd: Yeah. It, it… Because, um, in each story there’s a little hint at the previous story. 

Craig: A little callback. 

Todd: Usually it’s like a little visual thing or- 

Craig: Something you hear on the radio or on TV.

Todd: Yeah, exactly. And the last story in the group has a woman at one point flipping through TV, her TV, and she’s hitting a clip from each of the television clips that we’ve seen in all the previous stories. Oh, 

Craig: really? Right. That’s funny. 

Todd: Yeah. Did you notice that? No. Yeah, that was kinda interesting. So I mean, there was some effort to tie this together, which is cute.

And I guess supposedly, I have no reason to doubt it, I guess this was filmed over the course of several years. According to IMDb, 2015, then 2016, then 2017, so like three years went by. It, it feels like all this was filmed in the same night, honestly. You know, there’s quite a bit of consistency with the neighborhood involved and the cinematography.

Actually, I was very impressed with the cinematography. It’s all very consistent amongst the episodes, the lighting, everything like that, which, you know, I wouldn’t expect from a very independent micro-budget indie type movie that was obviously shot on video, you know? It looks good, honestly, for what it is.

Was pretty shocked by that. 

Craig: Yeah. It looks like m- m- it’s made… You know, it looks like it’s, it’s shot on a budget. 

Todd: It’s cheap. Yeah. It looks cheap. 

Craig: But it’s, it’s skillfully shot, so it’s… You know, it looks like whoever’s behind the camera is doing a good job and they’re considering framing and lighting and, and, and all of these things.

It’s not shoddy. It’s not just thrown together. Right. But you can tell they didn’t have a lot of money. 

Todd: Yeah, exactly. 

Craig: It, it’s, it’s not shiny. 

Todd: No, it’s not. It’s very limited on locations. It kinda looks like it was shot and some homes were borrowed, you know? For sure, yeah. Very mu- on location. The actors are- 

Craig: They’re fine

Todd: fine in them. The one actor, James Morris, is in almost all of- at least he’s in, like, the last three, and he’s very much featured in one of them He apparently was the director of three of the episodes as well. So, uh- 

Craig: Right … 

Todd: yeah, I’m sure we’ll talk about him and everybody else as we get through them. I feel like maybe just one at a time, yeah?

Craig: Yeah, yeah. 

Todd: But overall, kind of nice Halloween feel for the whole thing. The whole thing takes place on, obviously on Halloween. That’s, that’s the point, I think, of all of the stories. So that much, uh, you know, it kinda fits our bill for- 

Craig: Oh, yeah … 

Todd: a horror anthology that’s Halloween-y . 

Craig: It’s very Halloween-centric, like just dripping in jack-o’-lanterns and witches and, you know, everything Halloween.

It’s, it’s just absolutely dripping in it. M- I, I think they all… A- And, and the fall also, you know, the, the fallen leaves and, and all that stuff. It’s seasonally perfect . Um, I, I have to say overall too that I was pleasantly surprised. You know, as, as soon as it began and I kind of saw, I’m like, “Okay, this is low budget,” I think that had I gone to put it on before, I might not have, just because I saw that it was a series and, and maybe a little bit lower budget.

Right. But by the time the first segment was over, I was like, “Okay.” I was like, “All right, this might be better than I was expecting.” And overall, I think it was. 

Todd: Yeah. You know, I’ll tell you, I was getting shades of another anthology that we did, the one that had the segment of the Terrifier character in the last one.

Craig: Wasn’t it All Hallows Eve, I think? 

Todd: Yeah, I was getting shades of All Hallows Eve here, in that I felt it was similarly shot- 

Craig: A little bit, 

Todd: yeah … in a very low-budget style. And we did that years ago, and I’m pretty sure we came to the conclusion that it was super uneven. Some of the stories we didn’t really care for at all, and we agree that the strongest one by far was the Alt- Art the Clown segment at the end, which of course led to the Terrifier series with- Right

Art the Clown now being this huge sensation. But e- every, every segment except for that, it started to make me think of that. And honestly- As I got to the end, I felt like this was almost superior in terms of, uh, consistency and story quality and the way that everything was presented. 

Craig: It’s a… I- it’s been so long since I’ve seen that movie, honestly, I don’t even remember what the other stories were.

So it’s, it’s, it’s… I rem- I mean, I remember there was something satanic going on, like, in the tunnels under the subway or something. That’s, that’s about all I… That was weird. 

Todd: I remembered there being an alien segment that was just kind of head-scratching. 

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: And this one has one, too. 

Craig: Yeah. A- and I would say that’s maybe at least among the weakest of them.

See, the thing is these are all really short. They vary in length from anywhere around, I think, 10 minutes. Th- that one we just mentioned about the aliens may even be shorter than that. It’s really short. But, uh, they vary from between, like, 10 up to 30 minutes, but 30 is the longest by quite a long shot. So they’re really short and the stories are very simple.

So- Yeah … if you have… If you want there to be any element of surprise, you shouldn’t listen to this. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Because, uh, unless we just wanna say the premise, which, you know, I, I suppose we could just do, but they’re, they’re so brief, there’s, there’s not a lot to them. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: So anyway, fair warning as always, blah, blah, blah.

All right. 

Todd: Yeah. Well, the first one. What was the na- what was the title of the first story? 

Craig: I don’t know. I missed the title of the first one. 

Todd: It wasn’t given, was it? 

Craig: I don’t, I don’t remember seeing one. I saw one on all the other ones, but I didn’t see one on that one. 

Todd: I didn’t either. All we got was The Witching Season with, with an intro that is in front of all of them, which is kinda cool.

It’s got lots of little shots of Halloween stuff around town, very quiet morning time, I guess, around a place that’s decorated for Halloween. And by the way, if you go to their website… Did you make it to their website? 

Craig: No. 

Todd: Their The Witching Season films- Uh-huh … you can see that these guys are basically… I mean, what they say in their About Us page is that they are a Utah-based production company which specializes in creating Halloween-themed content 365 days a year.

Craig: They’ve done a couple feature films since this. 

Todd: They have, yeah. I’m kinda curious about them actually. 

Craig: One of them expands upon one of these shorts, like- 

Todd: Exactly … 

Craig: bec- because of the success of these- They used it as proof of concept or whatever and made the, the feature film. Which is interesting, and we should talk about when we get there because I, I, I just kept thinking, “Really?

Like, an hour and 48 minutes of this?” 

Todd: Of this, right? 

Craig: But yeah. But anyway, the IMDb says that the first episode is called Killer on the Loose. I didn’t see that. 

Todd: Oh, I didn’t either. 

Craig: But you’re right, everything very, very Halloween-y, Halloween decorations everywhere. And then it’s basically just a scene, any scene from any slasher with silent masked killer.

So it’s very Michael Myers, it’s very Jason. I would say more Michael Myers than Jason, but- 

Todd: Yeah … 

Craig: just kind of a menacing, quiet man in a mask chasing a woman. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: First he’s chasing her through the woods, and then she runs into a house, and then he’s standing outside the house, and she… Ah, he tries to come in, and she runs around.

And it goes on for a while. And I was, you know, I, I was sitting there thinking I, I see what they’re doing. I mean, this is any scene that you take out of the second half of any of the Halloween movies, but they’re doing it well. And that’s what I was thinking. I was thinking, “The suspense here is good.” Like- 

Todd: Yeah

Craig: I was genuinely kind of on the edge of my seat, and I, I don’t know exactly what to attribute that to, but I was. So I felt like it was doing a good job at what it was trying to do. 

Todd: Yeah, I think it was well filmed, you know? T- there’s just a girl running, like you said, and it’s mostly shaky cam. But, you know, she comes into this house, and I think it’s a little appropriately confusing.

We find out later. But, like, she comes into this house, and she’s, like, on the kitchen floor. You know, I’m thinking stuff like, “All right, you’re running from this guy, and you saw him outside the window. You’ll keep him within your eyesight at least,” you know? “Don’t go down on the floor w- away from the windows.

Lock the door behind you when you’re coming in.” The guy just kind of opens the door and walks in, and she’s hiding around, and she’s terrified. She’s hiding behind the television. The guy comes in, and there is Night of the Living Dead playing on the screen. Of 

Craig: course. 

Todd: Which makes sense. Number one, it’s common, commonly used because it’s free.

Craig: I, I was gonna say, I even thought like, “Yes, we see this all the time. It’s free, and everybody knows it, and it’s spooky, so people use it all the time.” Uh-huh. I thought that it was used really well here. Like- 

Todd: Yes … 

Craig: he, he allowed it to score the scene. 

Todd: Yes. 

Craig: I thought it was so smart. 

Todd: It really was. It’s a little baffling what’s happening here because it’s already playing on the television when she comes in, and there’s nobody else around.

There’s a big roaring fire in the fireplace and everything And as she backs away, she steps on the controller. It pauses it on the screen to the point where the woman is running, and she looks at it and she seems entranced by it. Then she hides behind the TV as the guy comes in, and then he looks around for a while, doesn’t see her.

So then it’s like he unpauses the screen and starts watching it as she gets away. And like you said, now that it’s unpaused, it’s underscoring the rest of the episode, which was cool. She runs upstairs, and then he’s downstairs, and she gets in a closet upstairs, and he comes up the stairs, and he’s still in his mask.

And he comes into the room and he stops and takes off his mask, sets it down turns towards what we haven’t seen, which is the rest of the room, and there’s a woman lying dead- Uh-huh … on the bed. Her throat’s been slashed. She’s bleeding from her wrist. Everything’s kind of been cut up, and he seems to maybe be a little surprised.

So this is the twist. Then the woman comes leaping out of the closet at him, tackles him to the floor, and stabs him a bunch of times, and it’s like she’s really good at this. And the expression on her face i- is not of a scared woman who suddenly overcame her attacker, but she has a extreme degree of confidence.

And that’s when we are hearing over the radio that this, this, uh… Or maybe it’s the television downstairs that’s kicked on- Uh-huh … right to the news segment. 

Craig: Yeah. Right. 

Todd: And it’s that there is a woman who has been, uh, who has escaped from the mental asylum and has already killed and is running around, and their police are on the lookout for him.

So it turns out she’s actually the killer- 

Craig: Right … 

Todd: and she has killed this couple now. Yeah. Because we see a, a photo frame of the man and the dead woman there on the… You know, it’s a clever twist. I liked it. I agree with you. I thought it was well-filmed and s- and appropriately suspenseful. But in retrospect, like, I’m not sure why she was so freaking out.

Craig: Todd, she’s crazy. 

Todd: Well, 

Craig: I- She, she escaped the loony bin. She’s loony. 

Todd: Okay. 

Craig: All right. But I, I, I honestly think that’s just it. I, I actually th- You know, there are more details. Like, at one point when she’s running away, she looks down at her wrists, and you can see that it looks like she’s escaped bondage.

Been cut. And, and- 

Todd: Oh, that’s what it is. 

Craig: Yeah. It- it’s like she had something really tight around her wrist, and you can still see the, the marks. And I thought that was really clever, and it didn’t occur to me, but it says later, you know, she was institutionalized or whatever. So I assume we are supposed to believe that she was res- in restraints wherever she was.

Everything kind of adds up. I didn’t see it coming, but in hindsight, aside from… Okay, I can understand why she’s just kind of acting crazy. She doesn’t wanna be f- caught by anybody. Like, maybe- Mm-hmm … she thinks that the guy with the flashlight is the people who are coming to get her, like from… or the police or whatever.

Hmm. Maybe. I don’t know. What I’m not sure I understand is when did she kill that girl? Because she starts- Yeah … all of it starts outside the house, so she had to have killed the girl 

Todd: Gone 

Craig: outside Earlier? Yeah. 

Todd: Yeah, I mean, that part, I mean, she could have killed the girl, gone outside, and then sees the guy coming.

You know, she’s trying to get away- Okay. All right … and she sees him coming. Okay. What I didn’t understand was the guy’s actions. I mean, it’s very slow. Like, he’s- 

Craig: Yeah … 

Todd: he seems to be stalking. You know, he’s got a big knife in his hand. I don’t know, what, are we, is he coming home from a party or something maybe?

But- Is it 

Craig: a 

Todd: prank 

Craig: on his girlfriend? I, yeah, I, I don’t, I don’t get it really. 

Todd: But, but he’s really walking slow through the house and, I mean, but, uh, you know, as a story it works, and it was interesting and well-filmed, and there’s a nice little twist at the end, and there we go. And we kind of expect a little twist at the end of all these, and we got it.

Craig: Yeah. I, I liked it. It might actually have been my favorite. I may change my mind later, but, 

Todd: um- 

Craig: Hmm … it made me smile at the end, like, “Oh, that was clever, and you got me.” Like, I pr- … I was like, “Oh, you got me. I didn’t see that coming.” I didn’t know where it was going- Yeah … but I didn’t see that coming, so I liked it.

Me 

Todd: neither. 

Craig: The second one is called Princess. Mm-hmm. And it’s about this mom and this little girl who move into a new house, and in the middle of the night the girl hears, I don’t know, it sounded like wheels rolling across a floor, some kind of rumbling or, or something. And so she goes down to the basement looking for mice.

Yeah. She’s like, “

Are there any mice down here?” Like, who are you talking to?

Todd: I know. But 

Craig: she, but she goes down there and then she hears whispering from a cardboard box in the corner. Yeah. And she goes and opens it, and it’s full of stuffed animals. And she starts pulling them out, and one of them is this creepy ass, like, Easter Bunny or something 

Todd: Weird looking bunny thing. I couldn’t believe this was produced, but, uh, it’s the creepiest doll in the bunch.

And when mom comes downstairs and asks her what she’s doing, she’s like, “Oh, I thought I heard mice,” blah, blah, blah. Mom’s like, “Now, you know those be- probably belong to the girl who lived here before, and how would you feel if, you know, you had somebody pawing through your stuff?” And she’s like, “Well, but I like this one.”

She says, “Well, you can pick one to keep.” And so of course she picks the creepiest one. 

Craig: Right. 

Todd: And I felt like this one was pretty slow burn. You could kinda see where it was going. It’s a creepy doll story. 

Craig: Right. 

Todd: So she’s got this little rabbit, and Mom is by herself and, uh, she’s talking to someone on the phone.

She gets off the phone, she’s gonna do some laundry, and she decides to chuck the rabbit in the laundry as well. I thought this was kinda funny, where Mom comes back and almost slips on the floor because there’s water and soap all over the floor. Mm-hmm. And she looks down and it’s, the door’s open.

Obviously the bunny has gotten out. 

Craig: Mm-hmm. 

Todd: Mom’s just a little baffled by it. I like that. And, uh, when she goes to the girl’s room, she’s talking to the- 

Craig: The girl is, right … 

Todd: it’s so typical. 

Craig: You know? It plays, right, it, it plays the child’s play game. Like y- 

Todd: Yeah … 

Craig: we’re, we’re supposed to wonder for about three or four minutes- 

Todd: Oh, like more like 10.

Craig: Y- is it, is it, is, is the bunny really evil or is the girl cuckoo? Because it could go either way for a while. ‘

Todd: Cause the girl herself is pretty distant and, uh- 

Craig: Um, could go either way. But eventually The rabbit is evil. I remember these. I, I feel like these type of stuffed animals were just before us, because I think that there were a couple around when I was a kid.

They would have, like, those tacky, like, velvet or velveteen fur, but then those hard plastic faces. And it’s, it- it’s creepy in and of itself. But then it gleefully watches what at first I thought was an infomercial for knives, but I think it- Yeah … was it act- was it, or was it a cooking show? 

Todd: Ah. 

Craig: I, it’s not well done.

I’m not sure. It doesn’t matter. They were… The, the… But what the segment was about was how sharp these knives are. They can cut through anything. Anything. And, and that’s, and that’s why I thought it was an infomercial, and it may have been. Because, God, I mean, it’s, it’s so cliche now to, like, talk about those infomercials, but they were real, and I remember watching- Yeah

them all the time. And I remember watching the guy cut, you know, through the leather boot. And then- 

Todd: And the tin can … 

Craig: thin slice that tomato. Yeah. 

Todd: Oh, thin slice the tomato. Always a tomato. Man, you’d think tomatoes were the most challenging thing to cut the way they went on those tomatoes with those knives.

Craig: I think they were trying to demonstrate that you could, like, saw a tree down and it would still be sharp enough- yeah … to finely shave your tomatoes. Thank God. I 

Todd: know. 

Craig: But yeah, it’s a whole gag. He’s like, “Hell yeah, it can cut through bone. Toss me that chicken.” And, like, it- it’s, it’s very silly. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: But it’s, it’s also funny.

Like, I… There is tongue-in-cheek humor throughout, and there’s a lot of these… Not a lot, but periodically there are these TV segments, and they look like cable access or local. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: And so they’re bad, but they’re intentionally bad, and it’s funny. I don’t even remember what segment it is. There’s… Maybe it’s the last one.

But there’s a girl who’s watching a public access Halloween special, and I’m like, oh my God. I remember vaguely when those existed, and I, I wish they still did. I, I’m sure you can find something on the internet. But, but anyway, the, the rabbit watches this scary thing and, and the camera work is great, ’cause the rabbit’s not really doing anything.

Todd: No. 

Craig: It only looks menacing because it’s shot and lit that way, but it looks great. And then it starts running around and you get, like, red rabbit POV. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: And it’s evil and it, and it goes and gets the knife and it… You think it’s gonna kill the mom, ’cause it goes in where the mom is, and it raises the knife up above her All shot from its point of view, of course.

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: But the twist is that the daughter grabs it before it can plunge the knife and fights it. 

Todd: Fights it. It’s, it’s pretty bold, isn’t it, for this low-budget production to try a, a killer doll thing? They’ve gotta be really careful. 

Craig: I love this. This is old school killer doll because- 

Todd: Yeah … 

Craig: there are no animatronics, there are no special effects really.

It’s just this little girl. You know, somebody throwing the doll at her, you know? Uh-huh. Like, her just rolling around with it, and I love it. It’s old school, and I thought it was great. I thought it was a lot of fun. 

Todd: I love the bit where the mom is sleeping and you see the knife just flop over onto the bed, like the doll tossed it up- 

Craig: Yeah.

Todd: so that it could climb. And, and then slowly this doll peaks… I was like, “Oh, wait for it, wait for it. Somebody’s raising the head of the doll over the edge of the bed.” Yes. You know? 

Craig: So funny. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Loved it. The girl gets ahold of the very, very sharp knife and chops its head off Right … and, and, and takes it down and, and throws it in the garbage can outside and- 

Todd: You know, I, I feel like there is something wrong with this girl.

I mean, she’s very nonchalant about most of this, you know? It doesn’t really affect her like you’d think. And then after she dumps it outside, she just comes into the room and goes, “Mommy, can I sleep with you tonight?” 

Craig: Uh-huh. 

Todd: Lays down in the bed, and it, it does fade to black for a little bit. 

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: And I thought, “Is it over?

What, what’s going on?” And then it comes back up. 

Craig: It just fades back in, yeah. 

Todd: And just fades back in. I guess it’s just supposed to be later that night. The panda from her room st- 

Craig: The- she has a great- … raises up over the- … big stuffed panda, right. Ah. And it ra- Somebody, somebody lifts it up into frame. I thought that was hilarious.

I, I did see that coming, and I thought that it was- Did you? … hilarious. Yes, I knew. I had no idea. Well, I didn’t know it was gonna be exactly that, but I knew it was gonna be something with that panda because it was featured prominently in the background- That’s true … throughout the whole… And there was at one point where she was kinda sitting in front of it that I thought, I was thinking, “There’s somebody in that panda.”

Like, it, it’s gonna move and… But it didn’t until later, but it did eventually. No. It was cute. I thought that one was cute. 

Todd: It was cute. It was a little long. 

Craig: Maybe. That one, I… You know, all of these are just TV-14, so they’re, they’re pretty tame. Mm-hmm. I feel like I could show these to my high school kids pretty safely.

I like, I liked that one. It was funny. This next one is one we’ve already referenced. It’s called Not Alone, and I don’t know, I actually kind of like alien movies. Mm-hmm. Like alien abductions and, you know, like that found footage one that we watched w- that was, you know, really low budget ’cause it was found footage.

Was it called- Uh-huh … Alien Abduction, I think? I like that stuff. It kinda freaks me out. So I, I kind of… And I could tell because the, the very first thing, he’s got, like, it’s just a guy asleep in his apartment, but he’s got a, a TV on, I think, and it’s the Halloween night broadcast, and the first thing it talks about is a story out of the neighboring town about a ghost that possesses stuffed animals.

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Which was cute. 

Todd: We even saw the doll’s head in the beginning, the, as the camera panned across the ground. There was, like, a smashed pumpkin. There was, like, some trash overturned, and then you see the doll’s head as it’s coming up to him. And I lo- I like those little touches that tied them together- Sure, yeah

that 

Craig: you 

Todd: had talked about earlier. That was kinda nice. Yeah, I, I think it was on the radio, not the TV- 

Craig: Okay … 

Todd: was this radio program. And, and I say that because I started to realize as this segment was beginning that the radio was flashing 2:45, and I think it was doing that in the previous two segments as well.

Craig: Huh. 

Todd: That they were all taking place at the same time. I don’t know if the idea is the same night, but in any case, it made me think about something we could… this way comes, ’cause isn’t there a sequence when he’s with the boys, at least in the movie version, isn’t there a sequence when he’s with the boys in the library and he goes, “3:00, the witching hour”?

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: So this must have been- 

Craig: Oh, yeah, he has a big monologue about 3:00, yeah. 

Todd: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you’re right. So he’s got the radio program about that, and then the radio program’s gonna have a guy on who’s ta- it does have a guy on, actually, who’s talking about his encounter with an alien. Yeah, I don’t remember exactly what he says, but he starts to describe it, about how he saw some bright lights, and then there was this figure.

And then it, it starts to fade out and buzz away because there’s this growing light outside coming through the windows. Again, a great low-budget way Yeah … of doing this. You just shine a really, really bright light through the window. We all know what this is supposed to be, and the idea of it is pretty terrifying.

I mean, I completely agree with you. I think the reason why alien abductions are a little scary is it’s, it’s the one monster that you kind of could believe maybe does exist. 

Craig: Right. 

Todd: And when we were growing up, it was a threat. They were ta- they were talking about this shit all the time. So it hits a chord with me anyway.

But anyway, he, he kind of, like, is, feels like he hears it, but then he sits up like, like suddenly everything is quiet again, like he was dreaming that. 

Craig: Right. 

Todd: And he sees a shadowy something in the 

Craig: corner of the room. He sees a dark figure in the corner of his room that looks… I mean, you couldn’t help but think it was the silhouette of a person.

Now it looks like somebody, like, completely enshrouded in black. You can’t- Right … there are no distinguishing features at all. But you certainly see a silhouette that looks like a body and a head, and it looks a human-ish to me. 

Todd: Yeah. It does. 

Craig: But he sees it, and it’s like he’s laying there… I have to say that everything that this short does, it does perfectly fine.

It’s just so short, it just left me wanting more. I, I- 

Todd: Yeah … 

Craig: I, I wish there was more to it because, you know, he just, he, he stares and stares at it until eventually it does move. Like, it, it tilts its head, and that s- and that scares him out of bed. But then he’s still questioning it, as you would, I suppose.

Todd: Right. But he- 

Craig: Like, you, you, you would think, I suppose, that your mind was playing a trick on you 

Todd: I guess. Well, he pulls a bat out from under the bed and he slowly approaches it. This is building an appropriate amount of tension. We, we feel like something’s gonna happen here. 

Craig: Right. 

Todd: And then, uh, he sees the light switch.

I thought, “Oh, he’s gonna flip the light on and it’s gonna be gone,” you know, something like that. But he swings his bat at it, hits something, and then when he turns the light on, it’s a coat rack? 

Craig: It’s a coat rack, yeah. 

Todd: Come on, didn’t this guy know he had a coat rack in the corner of the room? 

Craig: Right. 

Todd: What? It was just baffling.

Craig: Yeah, it’s not a big room. There’s nothing else in there. 

Todd: No. 

Craig: Except for a huge snake in a, uh, in a cage or whatever. 

Todd: Oh, that’s right, the s- huge snake in the cage. Uh, i- isn’t it weird that this coat rack is in the corner of the room there? I don’t know. It- 

Craig: I 

Todd: don’t know. Whatever, I mean- He’s got a house, not an apartment.

That’s fine, you know? Sure. 

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: He goes into the bathroom and he washes his face, and there’s a… This is a bit of a long sequence, too, and I thought this is gonna be one of those tricky things where the camera pans down then it pans up and there’s something behind him Is there? Not really, I don’t think.

Not that I 

Craig: caught Well, he, he- no, like I, I, I think that he has another brief scare about something. I don’t remember what it is, but he goes to bed and he sits on his bed and we’re, we’re looking at him, like we’re facing him as he’s sitting on his bed, and then he goes to lay down, and there’s a shadow on the wall that moves behind him and, and we see the shadow of something big and inhuman, something monstrous attack him, but only in shadow.

Yeah. We don’t actually see it happening. We just see the silhouette on the wall and, and not even y- you know, it’s not like we’re watching it play out. We see little bits and pieces. It’s, it’s quick. A- and we hear him screaming and stuff, and, and then when the struggle ends, his blankets, like, deflate. I don’t know how better to say it, like- Yeah

it, it, it’s like he disappears from, from underneath them and they just settle onto the bed and he’s gone, and that’s the end. 

Todd: That’s it. 

Craig: The, the, the, the suspense that’s built is good. It’s just so brief. It, it like you don’t really have time to get into it before it’s over, and then it’s like, “Oh, okay. Well…”

Todd: Yeah, and then okay, so it took him. But that’s like the beginning of a story as far as I’m concerned, you know? It’s not the end. 

Craig: It would be a great cold open for a movie. That would be a great cold open. 

Todd: It would be. It was, uh, really well done as a cold open, honestly. This is what made me think of All Hallows’ Eve, ’cause I remember specifically they had a sequence that was almost exactly like this, to the point where I feel like they were maybe copying it.

It’s just an alien that comes in, attacks a person, drags them away, and it’s done. And I remember us thinking that’s the weakest one in that movie, and I feel like this one’s the weakest one in this movie as well. I mean, as, as well done as all the suspense is- 

Craig: Yeah … 

Todd: the payoff’s kinda… 

Craig: Right. Exactly. Not because it’s poorly made necess- technically, technically it looks good, but I don’t know, it’s kind of a letdown for me.

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Uh, but it’s real- it’s short, unlike the next one, which is long. And, and it’s called They Live Inside Us, and that immediately sounded familiar to me. Now, I, I had looked up the movie just to kind of solve the mystery of why it was broken up into episodes, but I hadn’t really read anything about it, but that title, as soon as it popped up, I was like, “That sounds familiar.

I’m pretty sure that there’s a movie with that title.” And there is. 

Todd: Hmm. 

Craig: And it is based on this. So apparently it is just an expanded version- Maybe even with the same actor? I don’t know. 

Todd: Mm-hmm. I looked it up. It’s the same team. 

Craig: Great. Good for them. But I really thought, I don’t know that I want an hour and 48 minutes of this.

In fact, this felt a little long to me. Mm-hmm. The, the, the 30 minutes felt a little long to me. And I could see how you could make it longer, because what it’s about is this author who I guess for inspiration wants to go write in this haunted house. And he tells… The, the legend behind the haunted house is some guy murdered his wife there on Halloween night.

He stabbed her to death and then he shot himself, and he’s like, “I’m gonna write a horror screenplay here.” And the whole thing that he does is every- Like, he’s got a list of horror movie monsters. And he’s just… It’s just kinda like, you know, eeny, meeny, miny, moe- It’s a little silly … what he’s gonna write about.

It’s funny- Um … I thought. It- 

Todd: There’s a lot of humor in this one, I think. 

Craig: Uh-huh. But basically he writes, or he begins writing these different screenplays, and I, I, I think the first one is a slasher and then he does a, a scary clown one and he does a scary scarecrow one. And, and so I can see how you could expand on that premise.

You could have him write more stories. You could expand the stories that he wrote I just don’t know that I need to see that. 

Todd: No. I agree. It was cute at the beginning because it’s cute the idea that this guy, I mean, he’s clearly a new writer, right? And the whole notion that he needs to break into a haunted house with a history to get inspiration is cute because it should be so unnecessary for most people.

And then he’s got his notebook with, like you said, all of his very basic ideas in there, which is just a long list of monsters that he just kinda decides to start going down. 

Craig: It’s a funny list, too. Yeah. 

Todd: It’s funny. Oh, it’s just, it’s just cute. I love the idea that he starts out and what he starts writing is a woman running from a masked killer, which is almost exactly like what we saw in the first one.

Craig: I know. 

Todd: Just a different mask- 

Craig: Uh-huh … 

Todd: and a different woman. And I thought, “Oh, this is clever. They’re calling back to that.” And so, you know, he’s writing this and it’s very, very typical, and then it just gets to a point where she retreats into a tent and kind of in a weird wa- Like, who would, who would try to hide in a tent when they’re running away from a guy chasing them through the woods?

But she goes into a tent, and then she sees that there’s a sleeping bag in the tent, and she moves the sleeping bag aside, and it turns out the killer’s there. And he slowly sits up towards them. And then a shot of him and his head looking at the computer screen, kinda baffled and like, “Nah, that, that shit doesn’t work,” you know?

Tears it up, deletes it all, and decides to go down and do the same thing, which again, s- all of these start out exactly the same way. It’s just like some amateur writer with one idea that he’s just riffing on, right? Mm-hmm. And so the next one is the same girl in the same outfit, but now she’s running from the clown in exactly the same fashion.

Craig: Mm-hmm. 

Todd: And he, she hides in the clown’s tent, right? I was laughing at this. I thought, “Oh, I like what they’re doing here. It’s, it’s really kind of fun,” and it’s also a getting in the mind of this writer. 

Craig: I wasn’t sure what they were doing because that girl… Okay, so she’s running from this clown. She goes into a tent.

She doesn’t realize that it’s, like, his torture tent until she does. Yeah. But then when she realizes it’s the torture tent, the clown comes in, and she’s hiding from the clown in plain sight. In 

Todd: plain sight. Oh, don’t you think she’s doing that every single time? Oh my God, it’s funny. There’s a table with no cover over it that she’s hiding behind that that clown absolutely can see.

Craig: Oh my God. Oh. I was like, “What is happening? She’s right there.” You couldn’t help but see her. There are only three things in the room, and she’s one of them. 

Todd: But Craig, the clown is crazy, man.

What I saw in this was just a writer doing a bad job, you know? Right. And so that’s, that’s how I interpreted that. Everything that was kinda wrong with each of these bits that seemed a little fantastical 

Craig: was just- Oh, it was so funny though because she was crouched under this table. covering. She was like a little kid, like, “You can’t see me.”

Like, like if she can’t see him, he can’t see her. Boy, it was really, really funny. Yeah, meanwhile, the house is haunted, and- Yeah … the writer is, like, hearing the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies for some reason. I don’t know. But he, and he keeps hearing things, but whatever. He, and we see that there’s, like, a lady ghost walking around, or I presumed it was a ghost.

But he keeps writing and he writes another one. He writes about, um, uh- A 

Todd: cornfield … 

Craig: a cornfield. Yeah, scary g- Yeah. And that story ends when the girl who’s running from the evil scarecrow just gets hit by a guy in a truck. 

Todd: Yeah. Who’s eating cake. 

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: Then he looks at the screen and he’s like, “Eh, what?”

Almost like he can’t even believe what he wrote. 

Craig: Right. And then the last one he starts, he sets in the house that he’s writing in. And I mean, this is kind of clever. I don’t know that I think that it was executed particularly well. And, and maybe they do better. Maybe with more time and opportunity to flesh it out, maybe it works better.

Here, I don’t know, I didn’t really get it. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: So he starts writing, and it’s as though he becomes a character in the story, and he stops writing and he, ’cause he hears the music again, and he goes downstairs, and he sees this woman who has featured in his mind- Mm-hmm … in all of these screenplays that he’s been writing, but she’s really there.

And then, like, he runs to her, and then he runs to the phone and calls the police and is like, “I just killed my wife.” And I’m like, “What?” And he’s like, “What?” And he looks at his, and he looks at his hands, and he’s holding a knife, and he’s all bloody, and he’s got blood all over himself. What happened? I don’t understand.

That lady wasn’t the writer’s wife, was it? 

Todd: No. I mean, i- in the beginning there was, uh, some monologue, right? A voiceover where he was talking about the history of the house, and he said that in that house, a man had killed his… stabbed his wife to death and then shot himself upstairs, and they didn’t know why he did it.

They thought i- maybe he was crazy. Maybe he worked himself to death. Ever since then, people say that the ghosts continue to linger in the house, perhaps recreating- 

Craig: Okay … 

Todd: their murder over and over and over again. I mean, it is, it is expressly laid out in the beginning, but the, the sequence goes on for so long that it- it’s easy to forget the details.

Craig: So, right. That makes a lot of sense. So he didn’t actually kill anybody. He just got caught up in this, like, it re- it, like, it hap- like, history repeating itself, like a haunting. Yeah. He just kind of got caught up in that? Okay. 

Todd: I think so. Or maybe, or maybe he is the ghost. 

Craig: Maybe he is the ghost. Oh. Uh-huh.

Okay. All right. 

Todd: I thought that’s how I interpreted it. He was the ghost. 

Craig: That makes more sense. Okay. 

Todd: So, you know, I actually thought it was pretty clever. 

Craig: Yeah. The computer throws me off, but who cares? Whatever. 

Todd: That’s true. That’s true. I, I don’t care. Well, yeah, ’cause then l- later they show a typewriter on the, you know, as they’re- Oh, okay

panning out and, and it comes back. You know, maybe it just, as he recreates the murder over and over again, the tech gets better, you know? 

Craig: Yeah. I don’t know. I mean, maybe, you know, ghosts, they move with the times. Who knows? I don’t know. I, yeah, I mean, I thought it was fine. I didn’t love it. I thought it was kind of a clever idea, and I did like the concept of him writing these stories and them being silly and them playing out for us to see.

I thought that was cute- Yes … and I liked it. It reminded me of that movie that we watched where it was just those two actors, one of them a man and one a woman, and they just told each other stories. It reminded me of that. Oh, that was a lovely movie. Yeah. And I thought it was really cute And then there’s the last one, which is really short and is basically just kind of an urban legend type story where a girl, she’s not even home alone, her mom is home, but she’s- Yeah

at home on Halloween night, I guess, ’cause she hurt her leg. I didn’t even realize that until halfway through. She, she’s sitting in her bed for the first half of it, and then she finally gets out of bed and she’s on a crutch, and I’m like, “Oh, I guess she’s hurt.” 

Todd: Yeah. Surprised me too. 

Craig: So in, in the very beginning when we first meet her, she’s on the phone with a girlfriend who’s, like, out at a party or something, and she’s like, “Are you coming over later?”

And the girl’s like, “Yeah, I’ll be there later. I’m hooking up with this guy, but I’ll be over after that.” And then she talks to her mom for a minute, and then her mom pisses off some trick-or-treaters because she doesn’t give them candy because they’re teenagers. I’ve said it before, I will say it again, if teenagers come to your door, just give them some candy.

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Like just let them have it. Like Why 

Todd: are we, why are we hogging Halloween for the little kids? Where’s the cutoff for this? I… 

Craig: We do not need to gatekeep. Like, I, and I get it, like, teenagers get a little lazier. They don’t wanna look stupid or whatever, so they may not go all out with their costumes or whatever, but if they’re out there, they are clinging to a part of their childhood.

Just let them enjoy it. They’re not gonna get to do it for very much longer. Yeah. So just don’t be a butthole like this lady- 

Todd: I totally 

Craig: agree … and call them names and send them away So there’s the possibility that somebody could just be messing with this girl because the mom pissed them off, but I didn’t think that for a second.

Todd: No. No, not 

Craig: at all. They just, they just established that it could be. But there’s some weirdo standing, you know, you don’t really see much of him. He just looks like a shady figure standing across the hall looking at her, and she texts her friend, “Is that you?” It’s the title. And this, the, the friend’s like, “What are you talking about?”

And she’s like, “No, seriously, is that you?” Like, context, bitch. Like, come on. Like, she clearly doesn’t know what you’re talking about. 

Todd: Right. 

Craig: Oh, s- qu- asking the same question over and over again is not helping. But anyway, so she j- it, seriously, is it you? But apparently it’s not, and she hears the doorbell ring, I think, and the mom answers the door and then goes silent.

I’m not really sure what happens after this. 

Todd: I have no idea. I have no idea. I’ve, I don’t even remember that bit. I just remember s- now she looks across the street. Nobody’s there. So she hears a noise. She gets up out of bed with her crutch, and as she walks to the hallway, there is a legitimately freaky, creepy looking creature thing all in a shroud with long-ass fingers and stuff against the wall at the end of the hallway.

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: And it kinda turns around and looks at her, and she runs back into her room and gets in her bed. Then the typical thing of she’s shut the door, but then the door starts shaking. The 

Craig: lights flicker and go out. 

Todd: She has just the pha- cellphone, and then when she shines her cellphone light around the room, you see the door’s actually open.

She ends up on the floor. I don’t remember why. She falls out of bed or jumps out of bed or something. 

Craig: I don’t know, but I think she’s going to try to call or text her friend, and the light of her phone, if I remember correctly, lights her face. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: And we see that that thing, whatever it is, is behind her.

Todd: Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. There’s a jump scare. That jumps her, that scares her out of bed. 

Craig: Right. Right. 

Todd: That’s what gets her onto the floor. 

Craig: And it just, it grabs her and drags her away. 

Todd: That’s it. 

Craig: The end. Like, the camera, the camera stays on the door for a long time. I’m like- Something else gonna happen, but it doesn’t.

Like it just- Yeah … it just lingers there for a long time, and that’s the end. Again, this one, much like the Alien one, it’s fine just standalone. I don’t know that it necessarily works standalone. No. The, the fir- the first one feels like it’s cut out of a bigger movie, but the twist at the end kinda puts a nice bow on it, so it feels kinda wrapped up.

And, you know, I don’t expect all of my storytelling to be wrapped up in a nice, neat bow. It’s fine, but it just didn’t do much for me. Again, it was perfectly, you know, technically it, it looked good. Everything looked good. It was suspenseful It was just a little lacking for me 

Todd: Isn’t it kind of an unspoken promise of these anthology movies that they’re gonna be kinda like mini Twilight Zone episodes?

That they’re all gonna have a twist at the end? And I don’t know why we feel that way, but that just seems to be the pattern, and so I feel like that’s our expectation going in, and it’s fulfilled by the very first two. So to have that third one with the alien where it just, “Oh, the alien attacked and he’s gone,” okay, it just feels unfinished.

And then this one that they ended it with, of all the ones to end the film, you know, you kinda almost wanna start it out with your strongest one and end with your strongest one. Right. 

Craig: I thought the same thing. 

Todd: Yeah. This one’s just, it- again, there’s like, there’s really no twist, which is fine, like you said, but it does seem to defy our expectations a little bit in a bad way, and then kinda end us on a bit of a downer.

Craig: I don’t, I don’t know why it is. I, I, I think that you’re onto something when you say that for whatever reason, there are certain expectations about these anthologies, and I think that if I had seen either of these, either the alien one or this one, just as a short on its own on YouTube- 

Todd: But yeah, no problem

Craig: comple- yeah, I wouldn’t have had, I wouldn’t have taken issue with it at all, I don’t think. There’s just something about it being h- and, and again, that’s how they were initially released. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Um, so, you know, maybe we’re, I, I, I’m arguing myself into a corner. 

Todd: But wouldn’t that have been disappointing, though?

I mean, you know, if you backed this on Kickstarter and those first two were the way they are, and then you see that alien one and it’s super short and it’s just, “Uh?” 

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: Gotta wait months for the next one to come out, you know? I don’t know. 

Craig: Yeah. But I, I don’t wanna be too hard on it because honestly, of all of the ones that we’ve watched this Halloween season, none of them have been, you know, like I’ve enjoyed them, but I haven’t loved any of them.

I think of all of them, I think that this might be maybe the most ambitious, and I always appreciate that. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: I, I do think it’s ambitious. I do think that these were… I think these guys, I don’t know a lot about them, but I have a feeling they’re a lot like us. I have a feeling that they- Yeah … are nostalgic for a period of time that we are nostalgic for, that they are nostalgic for the Halloween that we are nostalgic for.

And I think they wanted to capture that, and I think that they did a good job of it. I don’t think it’s amazing. We- we’ve 100% seen better, but I liked it overall, and, and I would encourage people to check it out. It’s, it’s certainly not a waste of time. 

Todd: No, not, not at all. And, and you’re absolutely right.

All you gotta do is go to their website, and you’ll see. I mean, they call themselves Witching Season Films. It’s a Halloween theme. Kind of off of what we have done in the past where we’re like, “If you wanna turn something on in the background- Sure … these guys have it.” They have four things they call Halloween Atmospheres, four volumes of this- Oh

at least 30 minutes each- 

Craig: That’s awesome … 

Todd: that, that are on YouTube, that are basically just the beautiful images from the beginning of the movie. You know, the, the, the pumpkin in the cornfield and the- Oh, I love 

Craig: that … 

Todd: the thing hanging from the tree and all that. It’s really, really quite nice with some music behind it.

You- that’s something you could turn on in the background of your Halloween party, honestly, or just do it throughout the day. I love the spirit of that, and they’re also clearly very well shot. So yeah, and, and there’s a sequel that just wrapped. 

Craig: Oh, I didn’t know that. 

Todd: Yeah. They ha- they put up a Indiegogo campaign for The Witching Season Part II, and it was fully funded at, like, $16,000 and change.

And the latest update on there is the 24th of last month. It says that principal photography is wrapped. 

Craig: That’s amazing. Good for them. Good for those guys. Good job, guys. 

Todd: Yeah. So yeah, so they’re gonna, they’re gonna… We’re gonna have something else from them, and I’m, I’m think maybe next Halloween, w- if that’s when it’s released, we might end up pulling that up, you know?

It’s, it’s very promising. 

Craig: Absolutely. I would 100% check that out. 

Todd: Now, w- is this the best one this season? I don’t know, man. My prize still goes to Hack-O-Lantern. I thought that was charmingly fun and cheesy and silly and- Crazy. Crazy. I will be revisiting Hack-O-Lantern- Mm … on a regular basis- 

Craig: It was- … 

Todd: like I revisit Death Spa.

But this one, will I watch it again? Probably not. 

Craig: Probably, maybe not 

Todd: Fun though. Good fun, and, uh, Happy Halloween to everybody else out there. 

Craig: Happy Halloween. 

Todd: Thank you so much for, uh, sticking with us this month. We hope that you enjoyed it. If you are a patron, you got a bunch of treats this month. We had a number of, uh, minisodes back there on Halloween cartoon specials from TV.

We did four of those, and, uh, you can find those on patreon.com/chainsawpodcast, only if you’re a patron of our podcast. For just five bucks a month you get that, close to 70 minisodes that are up there now banked, as well as access to our book club. We already mentioned that we’re reading some great books there, and that’s been going strong.

We’ve been doing a lot of books in that too. Didn’t we count up to over 50? More than 

Craig: 60. More than 60. 

Todd: More than 60, that’s crazy. So yeah, get you some of that if you’re interested. Patreon.com/chainsawpodcast. Otherwise, just go to chainsawhorror.com and you’ll see all of our episodes up there, as well as you can contact us there through Facebook or all of our other channels.

Happy Halloween everybody, and until next time, I’m Todd. 

Craig: And I’m Craig. 

Todd: With Two Guys and a Chainsaw.